Speaker 1: shame, the fear of shame, the fear that I'm going to put myself out there and I'm going to find myself experiencing, you know, the definition we use it for shame is the incredibly painful experience of believing or feeling that we are unworthy, that were flawed and unworthy of love and belonging in connection. And so you can see how vulnerability is a really big ask. It's a really big ask.
Speaker 2: It's so interesting. Your analysis reminds me of the Boston and Mandela work on precarious manhood, which it basically says, Look, you know, the problem with with most definitions of masculinity or masculine cultures is we have to demonstrate it over and
Luke's Note
Precarious Masculinity (Nelson Mandela) - men have to prove their strength and virility over and over and even one slip up/sign of weakness means you’re less of a man